CANCELLED: Movie Night

[Quentin Baker]

Professor Adams:
I looked into the "educational loophole", but the problem is it would require attendance be limited to current Calvin students. We were really hoping to make this a networking opportunity for students to meet graduates, and removing alumni would defeat the point.

The next best idea is to schedule another event, but around board games or similar. I've also put thought into subsidized movie tickets instead, followed by a discussion on campus or at the theater. In either case, both things that we will need to look at next semester.

To everyone else, glad you find this all interesting. I've learned far more than I cared to about public showing licenses in the past 24 hours.

-Quentin

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Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 12:19:05 PM
To: Joel Adams; Jonathan Hansen
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Subject: Re: CANCELLED: Movie Night

I concur!

And long time no see, jonathansen!!!  :)



On Thursday, December 6, 2018, 12:18:15 PM EST, Jonathan Hansen <jonathansen at gmail.com> wrote:


This is easily within the top ten most interesting emails sent to either of these mailing lists in the past 16 years or so.

On Dec 6, 2018, at 12:12 PM, Joel Adams <adams at calvin.edu<mailto:adams at calvin.edu>> wrote:

Hi Quentin,

Sorry to hear the bad news.

For future reference, I know of two ways to avoid the commercial license restriction:

1. Design the session as an educational event, which happens to include a movie showing.  You typically need a professor to make this kind of room reservation, and the professor needs to hold some educational activity during the session (e.g., a discussion afterward).  We did this last year for our “Bias in the Workplace” session, where we showed the movie “Hidden Figures” and then held a panel discussion in which local tech-industry women shared their workplace experiences.  According to the SAO folks, this qualifies as fair use of a normal DVD.

2. Hold the movie showing in someone’s (e.g., a professor’s) house.  DVDs purchased under the normal license can be freely shown in someone’s home, regardless of the size of the group watching it.  The challenge is to find a place with a screen and seating big enough to accommodate the group.  I know of one prof who held an Interim course at his house using this approach; course enrollment was limited to 9 students because that’s all the seating he had.  Depending on how many students you’d expect, you might be able to follow this approach at our house, Norman’s house, Schuurman’s house, Plantinga’s (new) house, etc.

-Joel.



On Dec 5, 2018, at 5:58 PM, Abstraction Club <abstraction at calvin.edu<mailto:abstraction at calvin.edu>> wrote:

Hello Everyone,

After talking with event services, I unfortunately discovered we would need to purchase a license to show the film on Friday. After determining we cannot cover the cost, I have decided to cancel the event due to the short notice and lack of time to find a different venue or event.

Thank you for your understanding.

Best Regards,
Quentin Baker
President
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