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Hmmm. We invited lots of non-Calvin non-student folks to our Bias in the Workplace session — Girls Who Code girls and parents, women from local tech industry, etc. — and many attended the session. So either we were in the wrong or someone is interpreting
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I looked into the "educational loophole", but the problem is it would require attendance be limited to current Calvin students. We were really hoping to make this a networking opportunity for students to meet graduates, and removing alumni would defeat the
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The next best idea is to schedule another event, but around board games or similar. I've also put thought into subsidized movie tickets instead, followed by a discussion on campus or at the theater. In either case, both things that we will need to look at next
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<b class="">Subject:</b> Re: CANCELLED: Movie Night</font>
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<div class="ydp516ad418yiv8554850354">On Dec 6, 2018, at 12:12 PM, Joel Adams <<a shape="rect" class="ydp516ad418yiv8554850354" href="mailto:adams@calvin.edu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">adams@calvin.edu</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="ydp516ad418yiv8554850354">Sorry to hear the bad news.</div>
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<div class="ydp516ad418yiv8554850354">For future reference, I know of two ways to avoid the commercial license restriction:</div>
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<div class="ydp516ad418yiv8554850354">1. Design the session as an educational event, which happens to include a movie showing. You typically need a professor to make this kind of room reservation, and the professor needs to hold some educational activity during
the session (e.g., a discussion afterward). We did this last year for our “Bias in the Workplace” session, where we showed the movie “Hidden Figures” and then held a panel discussion in which local tech-industry women shared their workplace experiences. According
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<div class="ydp516ad418yiv8554850354">2. Hold the movie showing in someone’s (e.g., a professor’s) house. DVDs purchased under the normal license can be freely shown in someone’s home, regardless of the size of the group watching it. The challenge is to find
a place with a screen and seating big enough to accommodate the group. I know of one prof who held an Interim course at his house using this approach; course enrollment was limited to 9 students because that’s all the seating he had. Depending on how many
students you’d expect, you might be able to follow this approach at our house, Norman’s house, Schuurman’s house, Plantinga’s (new) house, etc.</div>
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<div class="ydp516ad418yiv8554850354">After talking with event services, I unfortunately discovered we would need to purchase a license to show the film on Friday. After determining we cannot cover the cost, I have decided to cancel the event due to the short
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